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5/3/1 vs 5x5: Which Program Fits You, and When to Switch

5/3/1 vs 5x5 comes down to training age: run 5x5 while you can add weight every session. Switch to 5/3/1 once you stall and reset twice on the same lift.
The two programs at a glance
5x5 (StrongLifts)5/3/1
Frequency3x/week full body, squat every session3-4x/week, one or two main lifts per day
Progression speed+5 lbs (2.5 kg) every session, about 15 lbs (7.5 kg) a week on squat+5 lbs (2.5 kg) upper / +10 lbs (5 kg) lower per 4-week cycle
LoadingSame 5x5 weight, added to until you failLighter sets worked out from a 90% Training Max
VolumeLow to moderate, focused on 5 liftsModerate: main sets plus extra sets and assistance
Built-in easy weekNo, resets only after stallingYes, week 4 of every cycle
Who it's forTrue beginners, first 3-6 monthsLate beginners and intermediates, for years

If you are new to lifting, start the free 5x5 routine in Hardy. If you have stalled on it already, the 5/3/1 for Beginners routine is the next step. Hardy works out every set in both.

In this article
  • How 5/3/1 and 5x5 differ
  • Why 5x5 wins for true beginners
  • The signs you've outgrown 5x5
  • Why 5/3/1 fixes those problems
  • How to switch: set your Training Max from your 5x5 numbers
  • Pros and cons of switching to 5/3/1
  • Starting Strength vs 5/3/1: the same switch, fewer sets
  • Madcow vs 5/3/1 after StrongLifts

How 5/3/1 and 5x5 differ

StrongLifts 5x5 is a linear progression program. That means you add weight every session. You train three full-body days a week and squat each time.

Jim Wendler's 5/3/1 is a percentage-based program. Every set is a share of your Training Max, which is 90% of the most you can lift once. The Training Max goes up once every 4-week cycle.

They are built for different stages of the same lifting career. 5x5 comes first.

Why 5x5 wins for true beginners

A new lifter recovers from a heavier squat in 48 hours. So a jump every session is free strength. On 5x5 your squat can climb 60 lbs (about 27 kg) in a month.

Starting 5/3/1 on day one throws that away. You would wait four weeks for a 10 lb (5 kg) raise. Your body was ready for it on Wednesday.

So stay on 5x5 while it works. Progressive overload, which means doing a little more over time, does not get simpler.

The signs you've outgrown 5x5

  • You stalled, took 10% off the bar, and stalled again at about the same weight. This usually happens 3-6 months in.
  • Your sets of five grind from the first rep, even after a reset.
  • Sessions take 75-90 minutes because you need 5 minutes of rest between squat sets.
  • You dread squatting three times a week, and you never feel recovered.
Estimated squat 1RM: staying on 5x5 vs switching to 5/3/1
0125250375500StartWk 3Wk 6Wk 9Wk 12Wk 15Weeks of trainingEstimated 1RMStay on 5x5 · Start: 157 lbsStay on 5x5 · Wk 1: 175 lbsStay on 5x5 · Wk 2: 192 lbsStay on 5x5 · Wk 3: 210 lbsStay on 5x5 · Wk 4: 227 lbsStay on 5x5 · Wk 5: 245 lbsStay on 5x5 · Wk 6: 262 lbsStay on 5x5 · Wk 7: 280 lbsStay on 5x5 · Wk 8: 286 lbsStay on 5x5 · Wk 9: 286 lbsStay on 5x5 · Wk 10: 257 lbsStay on 5x5 · Wk 11: 274 lbsStay on 5x5 · Wk 12: 286 lbsStay on 5x5 · Wk 13: 286 lbsStay on 5x5 · Wk 14: 257 lbsStay on 5x5 · Wk 15: 274 lbsStay on 5x5 · Wk 16: 286 lbsStay on 5x5Switch to 5/3/1 · Wk 8: 286 lbsSwitch to 5/3/1 · Wk 9: 288 lbsSwitch to 5/3/1 · Wk 10: 291 lbsSwitch to 5/3/1 · Wk 11: 293 lbsSwitch to 5/3/1 · Wk 12: 296 lbsSwitch to 5/3/1 · Wk 13: 298 lbsSwitch to 5/3/1 · Wk 14: 301 lbsSwitch to 5/3/1 · Wk 15: 303 lbsSwitch to 5/3/1 · Wk 16: 306 lbsSwitch to 5/3/1
  • Stay on 5x5
  • Switch to 5/3/1

Made-up example lifter, not logged data. The 5x5 line adds 15 lbs a week, stalls at 245 lbs for five, resets 10% and stalls again.

View the data table
Weeks of trainingStay on 5x5Switch to 5/3/1
Start157 lbs
Wk 1175 lbs
Wk 2192 lbs
Wk 3210 lbs
Wk 4227 lbs
Wk 5245 lbs
Wk 6262 lbs
Wk 7280 lbs
Wk 8286 lbs286 lbs
Wk 9286 lbs288 lbs
Wk 10257 lbs291 lbs
Wk 11274 lbs293 lbs
Wk 12286 lbs296 lbs
Wk 13286 lbs298 lbs
Wk 14257 lbs301 lbs
Wk 15274 lbs303 lbs
Wk 16286 lbs306 lbs

The chart shows one example lifter. The 5x5 line climbs fast, hits a wall, resets and hits the same wall again. The 5/3/1 line is slower but keeps going up.

One stall is not a signal. Fix your sleep, food and rest times first, then take the reset and push on. The signal is the pattern: stall, reset, climb back, stall at the same place.

Why 5/3/1 fixes those problems

5/3/1 attacks the stall in three ways:

  • The Training Max goes up once a month. That matches how fast you adapt after the beginner stage.
  • Every set is worked out from 90% of your true max, so the bar feels manageable again. The AMRAP set, where you do as many reps as you can, rewards good days.
  • Week 4 of every cycle is a deload week, an easy week. Tiredness gets cleared before it stops your progress.

The closest step from 5x5 is 5/3/1 for Beginners. It keeps three full-body days a week. If you want four days and more size work, run 5/3/1 Boring But Big instead.

How to switch: set your Training Max from your 5x5 numbers

  1. Take your best recent 5x5 weight for each lift. Work out your estimated 1RM: weight x reps x 0.0333 + weight. A 225 lb (102 kg) squat for five gives about 262 lbs (119 kg).
  2. Set the Training Max at 90% of that, which is about 235 lbs (107 kg) here. How to calculate your training max has the full walkthrough.
  3. Run your first cycle at those numbers. It should feel easy, and that is by design. If you get 3-5 reps or more on the week 3 AMRAP set, the Training Max is right.
  4. After each cycle, add 5 lbs (2.5 kg) to upper-body lifts and 10 lbs (5 kg) to lower-body lifts.

Pros and cons of switching to 5/3/1

Switching from 5x5 to 5/3/1

✓You can run it for years. The weights are lighter, the raises are monthly, and every 4th week is easy.
✓AMRAP sets reward big days. Bad days do not break the program.
✓You squat less often, so your legs recover between sessions.
✗Progress is slow on purpose. That is a waste while jumps every session still work.
✗The percentage math over a 4-week cycle is annoying to do by hand.
✗Sessions have more parts: main sets, extra sets and assistance work, which means smaller exercises after the main lift.

Starting Strength vs 5/3/1: the same switch, fewer sets

Starting Strength is a close cousin of 5x5. You do three sets of five instead of five, and you add weight every session. The power clean replaces the barbell row.

So Starting Strength vs 5/3/1 is the same choice as above. Run Starting Strength while the jumps keep coming. Switch to 5/3/1 when you stall and reset twice on the same lift.

The switch works the same way too. Use your best set of five to set each Training Max.

Madcow vs 5/3/1 after StrongLifts

Madcow 5x5 is the classic next step after StrongLifts. It moves the raise from every session to every week. You ramp up to one heavy set of five.

It works, but the runway is short. There is no planned easy week and no extra work for size. Most lifters stall again within a few months.

In Madcow vs 5/3/1, pick 5/3/1 if you want one program for years. Pick Madcow if you love 5x5 and want a few more months of it.

Frequently Asked Questions

When should I move on from StrongLifts to 5/3/1?

When you have stalled and reset the same lift two or three times. That is most often 3-6 months in. If jumps every session still work, stay.

Can I skip 5x5 and start with 5/3/1 as a beginner?

You can. 5/3/1 for Beginners is built for that. But a new lifter who can add weight every session will progress faster on 5x5.

Should I do Starting Strength or 5/3/1?

Starting Strength if you are new and still add weight every session. 5/3/1 if you have stalled and reset twice. The two programs are for different stages.

Should I do Madcow 5x5 instead of 5/3/1 after StrongLifts?

Madcow works and moves the raise to every week. It has no easy week and no size work. 5/3/1 gives you a longer runway.

Texas Method vs 5/3/1: which is the better intermediate step?

5/3/1 for most lifters. The Texas Method asks for a new 5-rep best every week, which is hard to recover from. 5/3/1 raises the weight monthly and plans an easy week, so it lasts longer.

Still adding weight every session? Run 5x5. Stalled twice on the same lift? Switch to 5/3/1 for Beginners. Both routines are free in Hardy, and every weight is worked out for you.

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