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5/3/1 Boring But Big Results: What to Realistically Expect

Boring But Big results, run honestly, are +5 lbs (2.5 kg) on press and bench and +10 lbs (5 kg) on squat and deadlift every 4-week cycle. Over six months that is about +30 lbs and +60 lbs, plus visible muscle from the 5x10 work if you eat for it.

The first cycle is supposed to feel easy. The program starts light and climbs for months. It is not built to crush you in week one.

In this article
  • A realistic BBB timeline
  • 531 results: strength gains per cycle
  • Does Boring But Big work for building muscle?
  • Boring But Big before and after: what changes
  • What your results depend on
  • "It feels too easy" is the design
  • How to progress faster

A realistic BBB timeline

Training Max over six Boring But Big cycles
0125250375500StartCycle 1Cycle 2Cycle 3Cycle 4Cycle 5Cycle 6Completed cyclesTraining MaxDeadlift · Start: 275 lbsDeadlift · Cycle 1: 285 lbsDeadlift · Cycle 2: 295 lbsDeadlift · Cycle 3: 305 lbsDeadlift · Cycle 4: 315 lbsDeadlift · Cycle 5: 325 lbsDeadlift · Cycle 6: 335 lbsDeadliftSquat · Start: 225 lbsSquat · Cycle 1: 235 lbsSquat · Cycle 2: 245 lbsSquat · Cycle 3: 255 lbsSquat · Cycle 4: 265 lbsSquat · Cycle 5: 275 lbsSquat · Cycle 6: 285 lbsSquatBench press · Start: 185 lbsBench press · Cycle 1: 190 lbsBench press · Cycle 2: 195 lbsBench press · Cycle 3: 200 lbsBench press · Cycle 4: 205 lbsBench press · Cycle 5: 210 lbsBench press · Cycle 6: 215 lbsBench pressOverhead press · Start: 115 lbsOverhead press · Cycle 1: 120 lbsOverhead press · Cycle 2: 125 lbsOverhead press · Cycle 3: 130 lbsOverhead press · Cycle 4: 135 lbsOverhead press · Cycle 5: 140 lbsOverhead press · Cycle 6: 145 lbsOverhead press
  • Deadlift
  • Squat
  • Bench press
  • Overhead press

Example lifter with no stalled lift. Your start will differ; the slope is the same for everyone.

View the data table
Completed cyclesDeadliftSquatBench pressOverhead press
Start275 lbs225 lbs185 lbs115 lbs
Cycle 1285 lbs235 lbs190 lbs120 lbs
Cycle 2295 lbs245 lbs195 lbs125 lbs
Cycle 3305 lbs255 lbs200 lbs130 lbs
Cycle 4315 lbs265 lbs205 lbs135 lbs
Cycle 5325 lbs275 lbs210 lbs140 lbs
Cycle 6335 lbs285 lbs215 lbs145 lbs
What to expect cycle by cycle
PhaseHow it feelsWhat you get
Cycles 1-2 (weeks 1-8)Main sets feel light, AMRAP sets hit 5-10+ reps, 5x10 soreness fades after two weeksSharper technique, more work capacity, the first +5 / +10 lbs (+2.5 / +5 kg) raises
Cycles 3-6 (months 3-6)Week 3 singles start to feel like real work, AMRAP reps settle at 3-6+20-30 lbs (10-15 kg) upper and +40-60 lbs (20-30 kg) lower on the Training Max, visible muscle if you eat well
Cycle 6+ (past 6 months)Single lifts begin to stall and need a reset to 90%Long-term progress in reset-and-rebuild waves; consider 5x10 at 60-70%

Want to run it exactly as written? The free 5/3/1 Boring But Big routine in Hardy works out every set and proposes each raise for you.

531 results: strength gains per cycle

5/3/1 progresses by the calendar, not by the session. After every 4-week cycle you add 5 lbs (2.5 kg) to your upper-body Training Max and 10 lbs (5 kg) to your lower-body one. That is the whole progression model, and it is slow on purpose.

Six clean cycles take about six months. They move your press and bench up about 30 lbs (15 kg) and your squat and deadlift about 60 lbs (30 kg). The Training Max sits at 90% of your 1RM, so your real max usually climbs at least as fast. Early on it often climbs faster, because your AMRAP sets show strength the starting number missed.

Those numbers assume nothing stalls. Most lifters get 4-8 cycles before a lift needs a reset. A fair 6-month range is +20-30 lbs (10-15 kg) on upper-body maxes and +40-60 lbs (20-30 kg) on lower-body maxes. That looks modest next to a beginner program, but it keeps going for far longer.

To see where those numbers put you among other lifters, check the Hardy strength report: how many people can bench 225, squat 315 or deadlift 405.

Does Boring But Big work for building muscle?

Yes. Boring But Big is the hypertrophy branch of the 5/3/1 family. The 5x10 at 50% gives every lift 50 reps of quality volume after the heavy work, four days a week. That is a bodybuilding dose attached to a strength program.

The catch is food. 5x10 squats and deadlifts cost a lot of recovery. Lifters who run BBB in a calorie surplus with enough protein are the ones who report big changes. On maintenance calories you still gain strength, but muscle comes much slower.

Boring But Big before and after: what changes

  • On the bar: +30 lbs (15 kg) on press and bench and +60 lbs (30 kg) on squat and deadlift after six clean cycles.
  • In the mirror: fuller legs, back and shoulders after 3-6 months, if you eat in a surplus.
  • In the gym: 5x10 squats stop wrecking you after two weeks, and rest times between sets shrink.
  • In your log: more reps on the same AMRAP weight, which means a higher estimated 1RM each cycle.

What your results depend on

  • Honest AMRAP sets. The last set of weeks 1-3 drives the whole program. Stopping at the listed reps with 3-4 left throws away most of the stimulus.
  • Food and protein. The 5x10 volume only turns into muscle if you eat for it.
  • Sleep. BBB has a real recovery cost, and you pay it overnight.
  • Conditioning. Wendler prescribes 2-3 easy sessions per week, and lifters who do them recover better.
  • A correct Training Max. Set it at 90% of your true 1RM by calculating it properly, not by guessing high.

"It feels too easy" is the design

The most common first-cycle complaint is that the weights feel too light. They are supposed to. The Training Max is 90% of your max and week 1 tops out at 85% of that. Your heaviest first-week set is about 77% of your real 1RM.

Wendler built the program to start easy and let the monthly raises do the work. A program you can run for a year beats one that impresses you for three weeks. For proof of progress, watch your AMRAP sets. Estimated 1RM is weight x reps x 0.0333 + weight, and it should climb every cycle.

Do not answer an easy first cycle by raising your Training Max. Above 90%, AMRAP sets turn into grinders and you stall within two or three cycles. Patience in cycle one buys progress in cycle six.

How to progress faster

  • Push every AMRAP set to 1-2 reps short of technical failure. Most lifters leave reps on the table here.
  • Move the 5x10 from 50% to 60-70% once 50% is comfortable. This is the approved way to make it harder.
  • Make assistance work count: 25-50 hard reps of chin-ups, rows and leg raises beat 100 junk reps.
  • Eat and sleep like results are the goal. It is the fastest lever, and most lifters never pull it.
  • Do not skip the deload, add a fifth day, or raise the Training Max by more than the set amount. All three trade two good cycles now for a stall later.

Frequently Asked Questions

What 531 results can I expect in the first three months?

Three cycles add 15 lbs (7.5 kg) to your press and bench Training Max and 30 lbs (15 kg) to squat and deadlift. Your AMRAP reps in cycle 3 tell you whether your real max is keeping up.

Does Boring But Big work?

Yes, for both strength and size. The main sets get heavier every cycle, and the 5x10 adds 200 quality reps across the four lifts each week. It works best with a small calorie surplus.

What does Boring But Big before and after look like?

After six months, expect about +30 lbs (15 kg) on upper-body lifts and +60 lbs (30 kg) on lower-body lifts. Expect visibly more muscle on legs, back and shoulders if you ate for it.

5/3/1 BBB feels too easy. How do I progress faster?

Keep the Training Max where it is and add effort where the program allows it. Push AMRAP sets hard, raise the 5x10 toward 60-70%, and tighten up assistance work. The monthly raises make it hard soon enough.

How long should I run 5/3/1 Boring But Big?

At least three cycles before you judge it, because the first cycle is calibration. Most lifters run BBB well for 6-12 months. When a lift stalls, reset its Training Max to 90% instead of leaving the program.

The fastest way to see real BBB results is to run the percentages exactly as written for six months. Hardy's free 5/3/1 BBB routine works out every set from your Training Max, tracks your estimated 1RM cycle over cycle, and handles the raises for you.

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Training Max (TM)1RM (One Rep Max)AMRAPHypertrophyVolume5/3/1

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